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In Reformed Baptist Fellowship on September 23, 2010 at 7:29 am

Are we now in The Third Great Awakening?

According to Glenn Beck, yes, we have arrived!  He reminds us that it has nothing to do with politics (except all his followers just happen to be conservatives).  It all has to do with “getting back to god” (and the more we say god and insert “god” where Christians usually say “Jesus Christ” — the better).  Glenn’s Third Great Awakening is based on Faith, Hope, and Charity.   I suppose we could say, “And a Mormon shall lead them — to discover true spirituality and the god they can become!”

With the fervor of an evangelical minister and with a blackboard outline taken from the Declaration of Independence, Glenn Beck exegetes the Declaration of Independence as if Thomas Jefferson were inspired by God.  Glenn Beck is leading the way into the Third Great Awakening.  According to Beck, the first one founded our country, the second one ended slavery, and the third one will… well, at the very least end the Obama presidency (something often implied, but rarely said by Beck nowadays).  His studio audience is mesmerized, hearing things they have never heard before!  Beck tells us he has George Whitefield, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and all the Founding Fathers on his side!  Simply google search “Glenn Beck third great awakening” to see and hear for yourself.

Do you wonder how George Whitefield got on the Beck bandwagon, or vice versa?  Glenn recounts that Whitefield’s message was, “Listen to God, God will tell you what to do.  Have a personal relationship with God.”  I would be very interested to find out when Whitefield ever said that in a sermon!

Faith, Hope and Charity — three values that Glenn Beck has proclaimed for over a year now.  This is the key to the Third Great Awakening.  Amazingly, he asks us to take a 40 day and 40 night challenge (40 days of purpose?).  Cloaked in evangelical language, if you didn’t know Beck was a Mormon (and he doesn’t hide that fact) you would think he was an evangelical.  In fact, Beck said, “…the founder of my church said one time:  Teach people correct principles and let them govern themselves.”  What an insight from Joseph Smith!  Could it be Glenn Beck is trying to use conservative politics, evangelical language, and the founding of our nation to make Mormonism acceptable to the Christian community?  I believe that is his ultimate goal.

If that is his goal, it is working, at least with some.  Listen to this extended quote written by Pastor Jim Garlow of the Mega-Ministry Skyline Church in San Diego.  If you live anywhere in California, you have heard of Jim Garlow, as he was the driving force behind Proposition 8 (the voter approved measure to end the short-lived Gay Marriage ruling).

“I have listened and watched very carefully regarding clues to Glenn’s spiritual condition.  I have interviewed several people who have been with him and have talked very specifically with him regarding his own personal salvation.  Glenn has said unequivocally that that he relies on the atonement of Jesus on the cross for forgiveness for his sins, and those are almost the exact words.  Few people use the term atonement.  Glenn did.

On one of his TV shows about a month ago, he laid out the gospel, using his well known blackboard, in the clearest explanation of the crucifixion and the resurrection that I have ever heard on national TV.  I called James Robison, and asked, “Did you hear that?”  James said, “Richard Land (Southern Baptist) just called me and said he never expected to hear the Gospel so clear on secular television.”  It was quite remarkable.  A few days ago, Glenn laid out America’s problems and then concluded, “We need God!”

I have interviewed persons who have talked specifically with Glenn about his personal salvation – persons extremely well known in Christianity – and they have affirmed (using language evangelicals understand), “Glenn is saved.”  He understands receiving Christ as savior.”

http://www.torenewamerica.com/garlow-evangelicals-mormons-and-glenn-beck

You might find that long quotation surprising.  You owe it to yourself to take the full link, where this evangelical leader goes on to ask how much error can a person have and still be a Christian?  After all — we all have SOME error.

Glenn Beck is a former alcoholic — leading America on a 12 step recovery program.
Glenn Beck is a Mormon — leading evangelical Christians to accept Mormonism as another branch of Christianity.

Glenn Beck is using conservative politics, evangelical language, and history mixed with a strange Mormon spin to advance his own agenda.  It will be interesting to see how far he goes — and how many “Christians” he takes with him.  Are you going along on the ride?

Steve Marquedant
Sovereign Grace Reformed Baptist Church
Ontario, California
www.sgbc-ontario.us

  1. Pastor Steve is correct and an incredulous approach to Beck is needed. Mormons, as well as Jehovah Witnesses, look to Christ for atonement. The question is, “What do you think of Christ? Who is He?”
    Beck and the JW’s, give no place to the deity of Christ as part of the Triune Godhead. To them, He was the sacrifice for sin but not co-equal and co-eternal with the Father and the Spirit. Jesus is not a created being, He is the Creator.

  2. It was so good to see my own concerns about Glenn Beck in print. Until he began “preaching” I was an ardent supporter because he was informing us of things I believe we need to be aware of. Years ago, I heard a missionary to the Mormons say that he believed Mormonism might one day be the one-world religion, but not until Glenn Beck came along did I ever think that was possible. I still don’t really think so, but I do believe their numbers will greatly increase because of him. I’m praying for the Christians who appear with him to be effectual witnesses to him.

  3. Glenn Beck is giving the impression that his religion and his god speaks to religion, the spirit, the body, politics, civil government, family government, social relations, and all of life.

    This draws people in because people understand, at least on some level, that a true God and true Author of life and true Savior would have answers for sin and all problems that touch all of life and all of creation.

    While too often Christians give the impression that our God, the true living God and Lord of heaven and earth and Savior of His creation that groaned until his advent, is for “spiritual things” (as separate from the physical world) and church and doesn’t have much to say about anything else.

    What a shame (to our shame) if we were to give a false (or no) impression of our God, such that our witness would sink without a trace in comparison to the public and comprehensive witness to a false god.

  4. The Bible says that people will listen to what tickles their ears. Those who are not truly grounded in doctrine will be swayed by people like Glen Beck. If a Christian were to host a show like his I’m sure it would draw the audience that this one has. Why? Because there is no threat to their life style. Read the words of Jesus and His words do threaten and make one uncomfortable. Such as the world is.

  5. More conspiracy…more paranoid threatened preachers. Afraid of losing your flock and the sound of coinage in the temple coffers. Perhaps Beck has no agenda but to better a nation by bringing them to Christ. What Christ? The very Savior of the Bible. The nature of which was not determined by some ancient Council voting for one doctrine as if the wind determined truth. Beck believes Christ to be the son of God…that simple…and salvation is through him alone.

  6. Good blog Pastor Steve, we have been warned and now we can go out and warn others. I like the last paragraph, it will indeed be interesting to see how far the Lord will allow Glenn Beck to go. Thrid awakening, Glenn Beck style, oh man! I don’t know if I should laugh or cry.

  7. Keat – You said: “More conspiracy… more paranoid threatened preachers. Afraid of losing your flock and the sound of coinage in the temple coffers.”

    If you knew Pastor Steve, you would know better than to make such a blatantly slanderous statement about him and his motives. If he were worried about money and numbers, he would no doubt join your Mormon church and bask in both.

    That he has sacrificed both money and numbers to preach the truth in his little church bears powerful witness both to his integrity and his motives. Take your slander elsewhere.

  8. Max…then why do preachers spend so much wasted energy condemning and judging that which is of the “good fruits”? A church that fights valiently for the betterment of mankind and whose entire focus is to bring man to the saving grace of the Savior….it is sad to see so much disinformation. The world has need of compassion and charity and good works and good examples…not fear and conspiracy that leads to hate and spiritual poverty. Yes our experience with the Savior is different than yours. And you have some special power to speak for God and be our judge? We will let God be our judge regardless of your special power. We will continue to serve God and worship him according to Gods plan as revealed through his prophets. I think its arrogant for you to judge that which you know nothing of.

  9. My motivation is very clear. I am all for Family, God and Country — but the eternal value of souls is far more important and evangelicals are compromising with the heresy of Mormon doctrine because of moral values. This is what happens when theology is sacrificed at the altar of morality.

  10. Keat,

    Your comment about “coinage in the temple coffers” is ironic considering your religion was invented in the 1830’s by the occultic delusions of an adulterer and convicted con-man.

    Attempting to “better mankind” with a false salvation doctrine about men “becoming gods” by “eating of the fruit” (rebellious self-worship and polytheism straight from Gen. 3:4-6*), without the Savior of the Bible, does not produce “good fruits.” Only the one-and-only God (Ex. 3:14, 20:3-7, 34:15; Deut. 6:4) can cause a man to produce good fruits (Is. 32:15; Eph. 2:10; Gal. 5:22).

    And only the eternal and perfect God and man in the one Person of Jesus Christ (Rom. 1:3-4), who has been God through eternity (Is. 41:4; Is. 43:10; Jn. 1:1; Jn. 17:5; Hebrews 7:3; Rev. 1:8) and took on a second nature as a flesh and blood man in history (Jn. 1:14; Heb. 2:13-15; Heb. 10:10), can and did atone for the sin of His people (Is. 62:12; Luke 1:68; Titus 2:14; Rev. 5:9) against the holy, perfect and eternal triune God of creation (2 Cor. 5:20-21).

    No mere man can contribute anything to his own salvation because our best attempts at righteousness are as filthy rags (Is. 64:6) and self-serving, rather than God-serving (Rom. 6:16-19), because we are sinners by nature after the fall of our first representative Adam (Rom. 5:12) and not inherently good (Ps. 14:3; Ps. 53:3; Rom. 3:12).

    The Christian, through faith in Christ, is made righteous by God for the sake of Christ (Jer. 23:6; Rom. 3:25-28; Rom. 5:11; Eph. 2:8, 4:32; Gal. 3:13,26).

    True faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God (Rom. 10:17).

    The false gospel of a pseudo-Christian cult like the “church” of LDS will not save anyone from hell (Jn. 8:24; Luke 12:5; 2 Pet. 2:1).

    I challenge you (Deut. 30:19; Josh. 24:15) to look up each and every Scripture cited in this comment and meditate on them (Ps. 19:14, 119:148), that you may be blessed by God and walk no longer in the counsel of the ungodly (Psalm 1; Matt. 9:13; Acts. 26:18) but walk after the Spirit in the righteousness of God’s law by His grace (Rom. 3:24, 31; Rom. 8:4) unto eternal life (Rom. 5:12; Titus 3:7).

    Sincerely,
    Bill

    * Scripture references from The Holy Bible, all of which is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness that the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works (2 Tim. 3:16-17; see also Deut. 4:2).

  11. ‘Every word of God is pure; He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him. Do not add to His words, lest He rebuke you and you be found a liar’ (Proverbs 30:5-6).

    If this man (who is utterly unknown in Britain) is a true Christian, what need does he have of the Book of Mormon?

  12. Steve….Your theology was the created from ?… Numerous Catholic councils that were big debate & voting events with little universal consensus. Definately the way God would have us determine the truth. Remember the Bible is not the church but a selection of writings put together …again by man. And the men did not agree on the composition of those books. Interpretation from translators was a huge issue. Each book must be seen as an individual work. That is how it was written. Yet your friend above goldmines a scripture here and there as if the bible is a unified piece of work. Read your history. Knbow what the Bible is and is not. Ses the historical struggle to to develope a theology out of it. And understand that these concepts developed out of the interpretations of men.

  13. Keat —

    Your theology is based on a guy who reads special tablets with magic glasses — and you ask me to “Read your history”?

    If you would like to read a fair and objective view of how Scripture was complied — I would recommend “A General Introduction to the Bible” by Geisler and Nix. It is scholarly and historically accurate.

    Thank you for your interactions in this thread. May God give you wisdom and open your eyes from the error of Mormonism to the truth of forgiveness of sin through Jesus Christ our LORD.

  14. Keat,

    The Word of God is a goldmine (Job. 23:12; Job. 28:18; Ps. 12:6; Ps. 119:72; Ps. 119:140; Matt. 13:46; 1 Pet. 2:6), and the Bible is indeed a unified “piece of work.”

    It is so because, despite having many different human authors and being written over thousands of years, the Bible reveals the very word and mind of the triune God (1 John 5:7). He is the true Author, Who inspired the men who wrote down the words.

    If long lists of Bible citations are intimidating, you can copy and paste the whole string of (25 max.) citations and paste them into Bible Gateway, and it’ll look up all of them at once for you in a couple of seconds. Pretty cool.

    1st 25 citations:
    Gen. 8:15; Gen. 24:7; Ex. 6:2; Ex. 17:14; Ex. 24:7; Num. 21:14; Deut 26:18-19; Deut. 30:10; 2 Sam. 23:2-3; 1 Kings 8:15; 2 Kings 14:6; 2 Kings 14:25; 2 Chron. 25:4; 2 Chron. 33:18; 2 Chron. 34:21; Prov. 1:23; Is. 25:8; Is. 34:16; Is. 48:16; Ezek. 12:28; Ezek. 24:15; Neh. 8:1; Neh. 9:20; Jer. 30:2; Jer. 36:4-6

    2nd 25 citations:
    Dan. 9:2; Mark 12:26, 35-36; Luke 24:27; John 5:39; John 12:48; Acts 1:2; Acts 1:16; Acts 3:21; Acts 28:25; Rom. 1:2; Rom. 15:4; Rom. 16:26; 1 Cor. 2:13; 1 Cor. 14:37; 2 Cor. 3:3; 2 Tim. 3:16; Heb. 1:1-2; Heb. 4:12; Heb. 13:7; 1 Pet. 1:23; 2 Pet. 1:19-21; 2 Pet. 3:16; Rev. 12:11; Rev. 14:13

  15. The Bible is the word of God. It is the recounting of past Prophets, revelation, events and finally the ancient church of Christ as established by the Savior himself with his disciples… Apostles and Bishops.

    A book, however, does not a church make. That takes Prophets, authority and revelation….otherwise all that Christianity would entail would be a great debate about the interpretation of past scripture and piecemeal theology. Without the Church itself we would have an endless number of Catholic Councils that were called to determine the truth by the debate of men and the count of hands. This is a precarious way to determine truth. Where was Christ during these crucial expressions of doctrine? By vote and debate, the vary nature of God was determined. Who inherited the endless debated doctrines? Protestants? The debate continues today. Look at the vey title of this blog:

    ……REFORMED Baptist

    Reform being change of understanding. The Chaos continues while they exclude Prophets and revelation and new scripture and the very Savior of which they proclaim.
    Gosh…why not give prayer a try?

  16. Keat,

    God’s Word IS His revelation, and is not just a bunch of words printed on some pages of paper. He (God) also brings illumination and understanding to the individual believer, and to the meetings of the Church, be they canon councils or what-not. The Holy Spirit, Who is the third person of the triune God (1 John 5:7)–and not an impersonal “force”–causes regeneration, faith, comfort, illumination and understanding, and the courage to wield the Word of God in the believer.

    Therefore, it is God Who is Truth and His revelation of Himself is Truth. Man does not determine truth. That would indeed be precarious, most precarious.

    Reform, Reforming, and Reformed does not mean changed understanding through debate among men. Because you do not know the God of the Scriptures, you are discounting Him.

    “Reform” is a work of God in His people and His Church in whom He works to “re-form” them more closely to His image, by His Word and Spirit. As He formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed life into him at creation, making man in His image (Gen. 1:27). After the Fall into sin, man was deformed, and has perverted the image of God in himself. He gropes for God and, because of sin, creates false gods for himself (Is. 44; Rm. 1:23). Christ (Col 1:15; Heb. 1:3) has come to reform man into the image of God, which was deformed at the Fall (Ps. 51:10, Rom. 12:2; Rom. 8:29; 1 Cor. 15:49; 2 Cor. 3:18; 2 Cor. 4:16; Col. 3:10; Eph. 4:23; Titus 3:5).

    False prophets set up false images, which God hates (1 Kings 14:9; 2 Kings 23:24; Rev. 13; Rev. 19:20). The “church” of LDS has false prophets, false revelation, false, scripture, and a false savior. Just one way to tell this is that the doctrines of LDS do not comport with previous revelation (Deut. 13).

  17. Pastor Marquedant –

    Thank you for your stand for the Word of God and for the pure Gospel of Jesus Christ, once delivered to the saints. Satan is indeed crafty, deceiving even, if it were possible, the elect. Mormons, if I am not mistaken, believe that Zion will be within the borders of the US, even believing in the inspiration of the US Constitution. If they are using their efforts to reform the US, it is not for the sake of Christ and the Gospel.

  18. I have studied Mormonism and i believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that it’s satanic.Mormon’s even wear Sacred Garment’s(magic underwear)beneath their clothes embroidered with Masonic symbol’s on each leg.Freemasonry is a satanic cult.

  19. I have seen a little more of Glenn Beck since writing this blog article. He is still coming off like a preacher. He is teaching salvation by works. He basically says it doesn’t matter which god you believe in — as long as you believe in god.

    He is trying to do more than give a political philosophy — he has become Mormonisms version of Oprah Winfrey and spreading a false gospel — and getting paid MILLIONS by Fox to do it. He does bring in the ratings (and fools thousands of Christians).

  20. I’m new to the RBF site and do delight in what I am reading thus far in the many articles. This one though an older article is so fresh and important to my heart. My Father was a Morman missionary a local one who labored with great devotion for the Morman church. He was a Temple Morman,that is a faithful Morman who is approved by the leadership in the local church and Bishop or Bishops of that area or stake I think they call it. He died as far as I know with the Morman testimony on his lips. Many things cause me great trouble with Mormanism and that testimony requirement in one of them. It goes like this or something like it,” I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of GOD, That this is the one true church and that Joseph Smith is a Prophet (or true Prophet) of GOD”. I tremble at the thought that any man no matter how truly holy and godly in life wether Paul or Peter or John the Baptist himself would be confessed at the same moment as one would confess Jesus Christ as the Son of GOD the Messiah and only Savior. Or that any true Church would be confessed as well since it is made up of Redeemed sinners. The only names I would ever confess along with my Savior is GOD the Father and the Holy Spirit,they being our Triune GOD the only true GOD. Mr. Beck is very sincere and believes in what he is doing just as most Mormans are about their faith,they are devoted and labor endlessly for what they believe is the truth and only way of Salvation. They are not alone in the Religious world,many seal their testimony with their blood for Muhammad,Taze Russell and the Jim Joneses of the world. Do Mormans die for their beliefs I’m sure they do and Joseph Smith is looked upon as a man who died because he was a faithful witness of the Morman god. But people have died in vain trusting in false religions of every stripe this will go on till Christ returns for His true later day saints the followers of the one true Shepherd who’s voice alone they follow and heed. Heed not Mr. Becks gospel or Jesus or spirit and give no place to Mormanism it is false spirit which has been tested and found wanting. Galations 1:8,9 are clear about this if we will receive it. Thank you Pastor Steve for your artical.

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